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About Four Dimensional Music and Chaos Theory

These comments were made about the above discussion:

Ed called… and left a message (he has experience with the dead, is a member of the Family):
He has already attempted to contacted with “the bear” on other matters… and this type of music sounds like it is right up his alley.

He suggests we should also try to get with the bear, too.
The bear http://thebear.org/

I ask, “the bear is the grateful dead sound guy that kind-of invented the modern PA? right?”

Wally added:
His real name – Owsley Stanley
but yes, helped conceive and implement the the dead’s early sound and the infamous “wall of sound” (‘74-’76)
75 tons of equipment

http://www.audiojunkies.com/blog/730/an-insiders-look-at-the-grateful-deads-wall-of-sound

Eric chimed in:
I’m going to research information about the the specific musical note of Bb (B flat).
It is of great significance. Exploding stars, musical waves, groovey.

Peter replied:
Numbers and beats–which also affect pitch, but ultimately it is rhythm. the area of four dimensional music must manifest in rhythm as it relates to time. pitch is just a quality of rhythm. the act of a phenomenon in space time and finding a new paradigm in space time, that is the area to attack! computers can help, but it is better to apply this to live experience.

by Sir Vent of KingArthur.com

LYRICS
Feeling pretty giddy
Rather glad to be mad
Feeling pretty giddy
Whirling rapidly in my head
All the things that have been said
Gladly
Giddily

Possessed by a divine being
My very meaning
Seems odd compared to God

Affected with vertigo
Hell’s such a long way to go
Rather fall to heaven
Continue with lighthearted livin’

Giddy .MP3

by Sir Vent Of KingArthur.com

LYRICS
Ohhhh, thank God we’re not stranded
Weeellll, heellll, yeah… we’ve landed

we tried to plan for it
we prayed we’d live to it… through it
at least, to part where we start
what’s next

now, I’m no longer perplexed
we were never hexed
we just put ourselves into this place
the place?
we tried to replace our race
with space
empty
space

as the light at the end of the tunnel approaches
it to us or us to it
it becomes appreciative

the moment
the mood
the climate
is good

if there’s any doubt that you should
if there’s any reason you could.. n’t
no sense to rage
no sense to rant
that’s all long ago
or don’t we know
who want’s to get caught up in the murk
the light is at hand
if we do not command… the shadows to lurk

to understand is at hand
the light’s right there
we’re ohhhh so close

never again to be rare
a point when everyone knows
when everyone knows

yaaaa, they at least… want to know

now, here we are
it wasn’t that far
we’ve landed at that space in time
where everything that I am
can see the beginning from the end
The End Of Our Times
Is not the End Of The End
It’s just the start of something new
Now, we knew
the message we’ll send
– The End

Landed .MP3

The songwriters, musicians, sound engineers, producers and computer programers have updated the discussion on Music And Chaos Theory.

by Sir Vent of KingArthur.com

LYRICS
How do you know that you’re even alive?
Open your eyes
Reach for the skies
And, do more than just trying to survive
Let’s get together and socially thrive

How do you know that you’re even alive?

If you open eyes and reach the skies
No telling lies
No hypocrite
That’s how we’ll know we’re alive
We can take the life and dive
Go ahead and give it a try
You can learn to fly
Spread your wings
Take in things
Now, you’re alive

Peter wrote to us: Hello. I am a composer and I have been obsessed with four dimensional music recently. I don’t know what it is, even though it is a recurring idea. I have been reading a lot and have discovered that the world of fractals and chaos seem to have a definite relationship to four D. I am not a computer programmer, so I would not be applying this to a program but am interested in applying it to acoustic works.

WE REPLIED:
Dear Peter,
OK. Let’s see what we can do.
How would you like to get started?
Sincerely,
Daniel

PETER REPLIED:
How to translate irrational numbers into a tangible working time signature — like Pi or Cantor Dust.

SIDD OFFERED:
Take the digits of pi and set them to tune, using the numbers for chord progressions?

WE ASK:
Anyone have ideas?

PART 2

rick (guitar, vocals, sound engineering) replied:
Beyond my ability to compute, but interested in the outcome…..I have trouble just keeping 6 strings in tune

krishna (guitar, percussion, computer engineering) replied:
One interesting feature of fractals is the self similarity at various length scales.
Of course the length scales aren’t simple multiple or rationally related  with each other which is what makes it fractal.
Not sure how one would play that without a computer.
I have a hard enough time staying with a band playing a regular meter :-0

chris asked:
Is this what you and Eric were working on?

I responded:
Yes. Here are a couple examples –
http://famedomain.com/going-down-video/
http://famedomain.com/palace-at-farnese-video/

fransico said:
Dan, I gave your info. to Tumaini Johnson. Maybe you can explain your knowledge and insight on 4 dimensional and chaos theory to combine the two into music. I think it’s chaos systems within
a chaos system that can be duplicated into math sequences delivered through sound and visual effects??? cc me i would like to learn… and tumaini im sure will have a good canvas to create his own ideas.

tumaini wrote:
I’m a friend of Francisco Baiz he told me about your work with dimensional audio and some experimenting with algorithms and the sorts. I’m a music producer and audio engineer so this type of stuff got my attention. Francisco said that you would be able to explain exactly what 4D music is and its future applications to me, I’m very curious.
Thanks

i try to explain:
About 4D Music and Chaos Theory Experiment
The experiment with four dimensional music and chaos theory started in the 1990’s. The word music may not be the best way to describe the experience; for now, since I do not know a word for this design invention, I will call it four dimensional music.

The experiment has evolved into solving the following design problem(s):
If you were to go on a real, real, real long roadtrip… such as in a spaceship traveling at a speed approaching that of light, what music would you take with you?

Because many of the people involved in the experiment are also musicians, we added the requirement that the design should allow for “live music” and the ability to see a concert.

The closest example of the concept that I can think of is helping a deaf person hear music.

I think the movie was called “Mr. Holland’s Opus” — the movie about Glenn Holland, a musician and composer who wants his deaf son to hear his music?

4D Music and Chaos Theory Part 2
4D Music and Chaos Theory Part 3

by Listening Deficit

LYRICS
If you’re having one of those days
When you don’t know which way to go
You just don’t know

You know it’s true
You can count on my
We’ll see what we can do

Just give me a call
About anything at all
And, I’d be happy to lend a hand
To help understand
What the hell we’re doing
Why we want to ruin… everything

If you’re having one of those days
When you don’t know which way to go
You just don’t know

Well, I’m still standing
Some find it hard to believe
I’ve got an understanding with the Almighty
And, I fall to my knees
And, I try, try, try to please
I fall to my knees

She says, “Whatcha doing? Get up on your feet.
Get out on the street.
You do me no good when you’re there on the floor.
No, no more.
So, get on your feet.
Get on the street”

She doesn’t care if you’re discrete
She just wants you to shout out the beat

Cause I’m still standing after all I’ve been through
And, I’d be more than happy to help you
I’m still standing
I know it’s true

Still Standing .MP3

by Narley Marley

LYRICS
The magnitude of the pure attitude
Is quite refreshing
A pleasant sensation beyond imagination

You’ll pull through a good mood
It’s elevating
From the depths of within you reach in
Bring out the good and fill the hole in with soul food
A feast and party that lifts the spirit
People far and wide can hear it
It rolls like a tide
Flies like a bird
A beautiful sound for all to be heard

Gotta love the magnitude of your attitude
Omnipresent without being rude
No, no privacy violation
Just a lovely sensation
Like an adolescent footloose and fancy free

The magnitude of the pure attitude
Untainted by lust or lies
No weather, just clear skies

The magnitude of the pure attitude
Untainted by lust or lies
No whether, just clear skies

Magnitude [.MP3 Reggae / Ska]

by Listening Deficit

LYRICS
Do you think she really did that on purpose
So, disruptive
So, do you really think she did it on purpose
Self-punitive

Do you know why would she do that on purpose
Inexplicable
So, do you believe she would do it on purpose
Unexplainable

Why would anyone ever do that on purpose
Worthless
So, do you really think she did it on purpose
Pointless

Do you think she really did that on purpose
So, disruptive
So, do you really think she did it on purpose
Self-punitive

Shoot yourself in the foot
Make every point moot

Shoot yourself in the foot
Ripped out by the roots
Making your every point moot
Give it the South Philly salute

Guess I’ll take my marbles and go home
No more of the lame game
Watching you fiddle as you burn Rome
Don’t wanna take part in the shame

Purpose .MP3